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I hate all this forum spam.. please use noCaptcha recaptcha as it will stop the spam. Also, delete all users that have ever posted spam.. I know it may take a while but I'm sure your users would rather have no spam than spam.

I hate all this forum spam.. please use noCaptcha recaptcha as it will stop the spam. Also, delete all users that have ever posted spam.. I know it may take a while but I'm sure your users would rather have no spam than spam.

Yeah smile

We are tired of deleting over 50 spam topics everyday.

We are thinkin of using stopforumspam.

Yeah :( We are tired of deleting over 50 spam topics everyday. We are thinkin of using stopforumspam.
Necessity is the mother of all inventions!

I don't know how it's possible to stop or prevent spam. And how you know that person typing spam, maybe someone just want to share some helpful link connected to topic. If you will forbid using links customers will loose much useful information.

I don't know how it's possible to stop or prevent spam. And how you know that person typing spam, maybe someone just want to share some helpful link connected to topic. If you will forbid using links customers will loose much useful information.

I don't know how it's possible to stop or prevent spam. And how you know that person typing spam, maybe someone just want to share some helpful link connected to topic. If you will forbid using links customers will loose much useful information.

Actually, the captcha I put into my CodoForum works well! I have no spam at all. I mean, I have no users but when I had it before I put the captcha, I was getting TONS of spam. I think this captcha would work. Especially since CodoForum has noCaptcha reCaptcha built in.

>I don't know how it's possible to stop or prevent spam. And how you know that person typing spam, maybe someone just want to share some helpful link connected to topic. If you will forbid using links customers will loose much useful information. Actually, the captcha I put into my CodoForum works well! I have no spam at all. I mean, I have no users but when I had it before I put the captcha, I was getting TONS of spam. I think this captcha would work. Especially since CodoForum has noCaptcha reCaptcha built in.

Actually, websites with captcha are known to get attacked the most. I suggest the switch from captcha to honey pot. If you don't know what honey pot is, I'll provide a link in the bottom. If you don't think honey pot is worth a try and you want to keep captcha in use. Another link will be provided.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29 - What is honeypot

Why captchas are bad

http://www.webconfs.com/why-using-captchas-on-your-site-is-a-bad-idea-article-62.php
https://webdesignledger.com/why-you-should-stop-using-captchas
https://www.perfect-web.co/wordpress-plugins/110-why-captcha-is-bad-at-preventing-spam-in-your-wordpress-forms
http://zurb.com/article/285/it-s-official-captchas-are-bad-for-busine
http://www.onlineaspect.com/2010/07/02/why-you-should-never-use-a-captcha/

Actually, websites with captcha are known to get attacked the most. I suggest the switch from captcha to honey pot. If you don't know what honey pot is, I'll provide a link in the bottom. If you don't think honey pot is worth a try and you want to keep captcha in use. Another link will be provided. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29 - What is honeypot > Why captchas are bad > http://www.webconfs.com/why-using-captchas-on-your-site-is-a-bad-idea-article-62.php > https://webdesignledger.com/why-you-should-stop-using-captchas > https://www.perfect-web.co/wordpress-plugins/110-why-captcha-is-bad-at-preventing-spam-in-your-wordpress-forms > http://zurb.com/article/285/it-s-official-captchas-are-bad-for-busine > http://www.onlineaspect.com/2010/07/02/why-you-should-never-use-a-captcha/

Actually, websites with captcha are known to get attacked the most. I suggest the switch from captcha to honey pot. If you don't know what honey pot is, I'll provide a link in the bottom. If you don't think honey pot is worth a try and you want to keep captcha in use. Another link will be provided.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29 - What is honeypot

Why captchas are bad

http://www.webconfs.com/why-using-captchas-on-your-site-is-a-bad-idea-article-62.php
https://webdesignledger.com/why-you-should-stop-using-captchas
https://www.perfect-web.co/wordpress-plugins/110-why-captcha-is-bad-at-preventing-spam-in-your-wordpress-forms
http://zurb.com/article/285/it-s-official-captchas-are-bad-for-busine
http://www.onlineaspect.com/2010/07/02/why-you-should-never-use-a-captcha/

That is not true as I am using a captcha and I haven lt been spammed.

>Actually, websites with captcha are known to get attacked the most. I suggest the switch from captcha to honey pot. If you don't know what honey pot is, I'll provide a link in the bottom. If you don't think honey pot is worth a try and you want to keep captcha in use. Another link will be provided. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29 - What is honeypot >> Why captchas are bad >> http://www.webconfs.com/why-using-captchas-on-your-site-is-a-bad-idea-article-62.php >> https://webdesignledger.com/why-you-should-stop-using-captchas >> https://www.perfect-web.co/wordpress-plugins/110-why-captcha-is-bad-at-preventing-spam-in-your-wordpress-forms >> http://zurb.com/article/285/it-s-official-captchas-are-bad-for-busine >> http://www.onlineaspect.com/2010/07/02/why-you-should-never-use-a-captcha/ That is not true as I am using a captcha and I haven lt been spammed.

That is not true as I am using a captcha and I haven lt been spammed.

Most website spam bots are programmed to look specifically for captcha websites. Your website will eventually get spammed. As far as I know it. Ever since I deployed a honey pot on my website. I have not been hit with spam. When I looked at the data that the honey pot had pulled up. There were tons and tons of spam bots that "attempted" to spam, but I made my honey pot in a way where once they submit the form and the honey pot field was triggered. It adds that IP into the database and blocks them from viewing the website completely. My users have also been freely able to submit whatever they want without failing to submit 2 words into a 3rd party program.

This however cannot be true about captcha. Captchas force users to type random words up.

Why put the burden on your users? Why be a lazy PHP developer and force your users to type random crap that basically doesn't let them go through the first attempt?

I thought captchas are suppose to help users? Then why is it driving users away? How come your conversions have dropped dramatically? If you read the few arcticles I have posted, you might actually be able to answer these questions.

However I will not "force" you to change from captcha to honey pot. That is how captchas work, no? I am just trying to think like a captcha. But I have no say in who should use what and who shouldn't. I am just here suggesting the switch from a 1990's technique to a 2000 + technique.

> That is not true as I am using a captcha and I haven lt been spammed. Most website spam bots are programmed to look specifically for captcha websites. Your website will eventually get spammed. As far as I know it. Ever since I deployed a honey pot on my website. I have not been hit with spam. When I looked at the data that the honey pot had pulled up. There were tons and tons of spam bots that "attempted" to spam, but I made my honey pot in a way where once they submit the form and the honey pot field was triggered. It adds that IP into the database and blocks them from viewing the website completely. My users have also been freely able to submit whatever they want without failing to submit 2 words into a 3rd party program. This however cannot be true about captcha. Captchas force users to type random words up. Why put the burden on your users? Why be a lazy PHP developer and force your users to type random crap that basically doesn't let them go through the first attempt? I thought captchas are suppose to help users? Then why is it driving users away? How come your conversions have dropped dramatically? If you read the few arcticles I have posted, you might actually be able to answer these questions. However I will not "**force**" you to change from captcha to honey pot. That is how captchas work, no? I am just trying to think like a captcha. But I have no say in who should use what and who shouldn't. I am just here _suggesting_ the switch from a 1990's technique to a 2000 + technique.
edited Aug 27 '15 at 5:08 am

I use google's noCaptcha recaptcha and I've had my site for months and haven't been spammed with the captcha in place once.

I use google's noCaptcha recaptcha and I've had my site for months and haven't been spammed with the captcha in place once.

If captchas are so good then how come it didn't block this bot?

http://codologic.com/forum/index.php?u=/topic/4556/added-vitamins-and-so-maybe

I mean heck. Even codologic has the all mighty "noCaptcha reCaptcha" for users to sign up. How come bots are coming through?

http://codologic.com/page/user/register

You tell me.

If captchas are so good then how come it didn't block this bot? http://codologic.com/forum/index.php?u=/topic/4556/added-vitamins-and-so-maybe I mean heck. Even codologic has the all mighty "noCaptcha reCaptcha" for users to sign up. How come bots are coming through? http://codologic.com/page/user/register You tell me.

Hi,

Because captchas are not perfect and it is not always that bots will register in the website.

A human can make a fake account and then run a script to create spam topics.

The best thing would be to combine the methods of honeypot and captcha.

Hi, Because captchas are not perfect and it is not always that bots will register in the website. A human can make a fake account and then run a script to create spam topics. The best thing would be to combine the methods of honeypot and captcha.
edited Aug 27 '15 at 6:52 pm

Because captchas are not perfect and it is not always that bots will register in the website.

Here's a link for you to read. http://www.shieldsquare.com/sorry-google-captcha-recaptcha-doesnt-stop-bots/

Honestly though, captchas are the least of a site owner's worries. What really needs to be put into attention is if the form submission was submitted via the actual website or was it fiddled on someone's local computer and attempted to submit the form. This could also be done using a different website.

Let's say I have a website called domain.com and I copied & pasted all of Facebook's HTML codes onto my website, changed a few things to target and store data into my website, but it looks legit like Facebook's website. Then when said user goes and enters in data. Oh look, now their actual Facebook account has been hacked. I wonder why? It's because the average Joe doesn't care about where the website or target is located. The average Joe doesn't know a thing about security. All they know is that if the website looks like the website they normally go on, then it's legit.

This could also be a back door to manipulating features that aren't supposed to be there. Let's say I "had" access to an admin panel, but I don't anymore. If I saved the admin panel. I could potentially modify what I like and submit the form. If the form has horrible codes, I could actually get into it without a problem and change what I like.

Now I know that codoforum is a 3rd party software, but people actually need to start thinking like a real PHP developer instead of going the easy route and putting the burden on their users. I wonder why Facebook took out their captchas........ Facebook has no captchas whats so ever. I had a friend who spammed my message about 900 times. He got banned from sending messages for an hour straight. Did he get thrown a captcha? No. When I signed up for 13 Facebook accounts. Did I get thrown a captcha? No. And you wonder why Facebook of all websites is the most popular social media sites out there.

> Because captchas are not perfect and it is not always that bots will register in the website. Here's a link for you to read. http://www.shieldsquare.com/sorry-google-captcha-recaptcha-doesnt-stop-bots/ Honestly though, captchas are the least of a site owner's worries. What really needs to be put into attention is if the form submission was submitted via the actual website or was it fiddled on someone's local computer and attempted to submit the form. This could also be done using a different website. Let's say I have a website called domain.com and I copied & pasted all of Facebook's HTML codes onto my website, changed a few things to target and store data into my website, but it looks legit like Facebook's website. Then when said user goes and enters in data. Oh look, now their actual Facebook account has been hacked. I wonder why? It's because the average Joe doesn't care about where the website or target is located. The average Joe doesn't know a thing about security. All they know is that if the website looks like the website they normally go on, then it's legit. This could also be a back door to manipulating features that aren't supposed to be there. Let's say I "had" access to an admin panel, but I don't anymore. If I saved the admin panel. I could potentially modify what I like and submit the form. If the form has horrible codes, I could actually get into it without a problem and change what I like. Now I know that codoforum is a 3rd party software, but people actually need to start thinking like a real PHP developer instead of going the easy route and putting the burden on their users. I wonder why Facebook took out their captchas........ Facebook has no captchas whats so ever. I had a friend who spammed my message about 900 times. He got banned from sending messages for an hour straight. Did he get thrown a captcha? No. When I signed up for 13 Facebook accounts. Did I get thrown a captcha? No. And you wonder why Facebook of all websites is the most popular social media sites out there.

Hi,

What you said is known as phisihing and it is something done externally and we have no control over it.

To prevent phishing, the users themselves have to be made aware of it.

Hi, What you said is known as phisihing and it is something done externally and we have no control over it. To prevent phishing, the users themselves have to be made aware of it.

Hi,

Because captchas are not perfect and it is not always that bots will register in the website.

A human can make a fake account and then run a script to create spam topics.

The best thing would be to combine the methods of honeypot and captcha.!

That should work

>Hi, >Because captchas are not perfect and it is not always that bots will register in the website. >A human can make a fake account and then run a script to create spam topics. >The best thing would be to combine the methods of honeypot and captcha.! That should work
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